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I don’t want to leave matters as I have just left them, and therefore am going to take the risk of making some hasty remarks regarding the relationship of reason to desire.

I’m making use of Nietzsche – I think that’s unavoidable. However, I’m not attempting an exegesis of Nietzsche – to be honest, I doubt I am up to that…That I can cut it there. It’s just that a lot of this Nietzsche stuff sticks in my craw… I want to get it out of there… I want to cough it up and spit it out, or swallow it and then digest it. One way or the other.

Here is a brief recap of our trajectory: 1) we want a “repetition with difference” of, ( or to put it another way, a philosophical re-activation of,) the Enlightenment;2) we suspect in some way not terribly clear, that a key to this philosophical re-activation of the Enlightenment is to be found in understanding “ desiring of one’s own repression"; 3) we note that Kant’s comment that “ Enlightenment is man’s release from his self-incurred tutelage,” relates to “desiring one’s own repression; 4) I insist that “ desiring one’s own repression” emerges against the background of Nietzsche’s idea of ressentiment, which is a remarkably fertile and subtly influential concept ( even if this isn’t very widely recognized); 5) a philosophical re-activation of the Enlightenment may be facilitated by re-activating an examination of the concept of ressentiment.

I want to note that I think that in terms of addressing the kinds of problems we want to address, which seem to involve what has been called here the “epistemology of desiring one’s own repression,” we do better by completely eliminating all references to the unconscious, and to unconscious processes, and try to think through these matters using the concept of ressentiment instead. As far as I am concerned, (please recognize that I am humble although overreaching in such statements,) the later Freudian concepts are interpretations of the Nietzschean ones, and in their medicalization and reification of the Nietzschean ones, there is an event of power/knowledge I would for my own purposes prefer to skirt…Because the power moment in that event recoups (or appears to recoup) exactly the moment of liberation I am pursuing.

I am very interested in this quote,

“The slave revolt in morality begins when ressentiment itself becomes creative and gives birth to values: the ressentiment of natures that are denied the true reaction, that of deeds, and compensate themselves with an imaginary revenge. While every noble morality develops from a triumphant affirmation of itself, slave morality from the outset says No to what is "outside," what is "different," what is "not itself"; and this No is its creative deed. This inversion of the value-positing eye—this need to direct one's view outward instead of back to oneself—is of the essence of ressentiment; in order to exist, slave morality always first needs a hostile external world; it needs, physiologically speaking, external stimuli in order to act at all—its action is fundamentally reaction.” – Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals, section 10.

I said I am interested in it, not that I like it. I don’t like it.

It’s really nothing more than a series of assertions. I recognize that these assertions are backed by various beautiful and stirring descriptions of history and culture and a real impressive grab bag of erudition drawing up all sorts of “illustrations” and “examples.” But I don’t necessarily buy into any of it. I’m not even sure that I am going to buy into the existence of a “slave revolt in morality.” However, this isn’t my point today. I want to remark on the significance of its use of assertion… Of what an assertion is.

An assertion is an intrusion of authority into a text.

I suppose that such an assertion of authority is impossible to avoid. However, an Enlightenment thinker such as Immanuel Kant would attempt to support any insertion of authority into his texts in such a way that he could show that the authority intruding into the text was the authority of “reason.” This would be done by using a variety of practices, such as giving reasons for the assertion, by showing that there was no “partial” interest being served by the intrusion of the authority, etc.

An assertion is an expression of desire in a text.

An Enlightenment thinker such as Immanuel Kant attempts to efface any such expression of desire in his texts. Arguments in texts are literal effacements of desire. An Enlightenment thinker such as Kant utilizes argument and reason to efface desire, not to “uncover” or discover the truth.

In the last four paragraphs, I am trying to make explicit what I think Nietzsche is saying in his manner of saying it rather than give my own views on assertion, desire, and reason. I think that when Nietzsche says, “While every noble morality develops from a triumphant affirmation of itself, slave morality from the outset says No,” his target isn’t the thinking of some impoverished and maltreated human chattel, but someone like Immanuel Kant. I think that Nietzsche would say that in disguising or effacing what is in reality desire, (someone’s desire,) Kant says a loud NO to himself and to life -- Kant refuses triumphant affirmation of himself…. And thus contributes to “ triumphant calamity” instead.


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Yusef, you provide such a wealth of material for further discussion that I don't really know where to begin.

Let me just throw together a montage of "assertions" (however intricate that figure of rhetorics is - there's so much ground to cover just getting a grip on that!)

1: In your previous post you (too cheaply in my view) deconstructed Mietzsche into a set a questions (e.g. "Is it even clear who is saying NO and who is saying YES?") that would deflate any kind of thought. Your own (and mine, too) included.

2: Your use of the concept of "ressentiment" in relation to "desiring one’s own repression" is fruitful and worth following although not in the way you use it, I think. Nietzsche's point about the slave morality is that it has WON! Meaning that it has turned upside down the qualities originally associated with the master morality and changed them into weaknesses. Christianity is the perpetrator here.

3: It is true that we want a (Deleuzian?) "repetition with difference" or a philosophical re-activation of The Enlightenment, but I don't agree with your point 2 that "we suspect in some way not terribly clear, that a key to this is to be found in understanding “ desiring of one’s own repression". The "new" Enlightenment must (in my humble opinion) come from a rebirth of secularism and a renewed Nietzschean critique of religious suppression.

4: In your most recent post your assertions about assertions as in "An assertion is an intrusion of authority into a text" and "an assertion is an expression of desire in a text" you turn positively Derridasque (!). This is fascinating and very fruitful for further explorations.

5: At the end of your post you then turn positively Freudian towards Kant in your statement "I think that when Nietzsche says, “While every noble morality develops from a triumphant affirmation of itself, slave morality from the outset says No,” his target isn’t the thinking of some impoverished and maltreated human chattel, but someone like Immanuel Kant. I think that Nietzsche would say that in disguising or effacing what is in reality desire, (someone’s desire,) Kant says a loud NO to himself and to life". I don't think that is productive. It is true that Nietzsche often in his rants ridiculed Kant as a figure of staid and pompous GERMAN thought, but overlooks the important contribution of Kant to his (Nietzsche's) own concept of perspectivism.

6: One final point: The (Kantian - and contemporary) pursuit of reason is driven by just as much DESIRE as the "desiring of one's own suppression".

Thank you, Yusef, for creating such concepts that create new concepts.

THAT is what it is all about!


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Anonymous Yusef said...

Thanks for your helpful commentary, Orla.

"In your previous post you (too cheaply in my view) deconstructed Mietzsche into a set a questions (e.g. "Is it even clear who is saying NO and who is saying YES?") that would deflate any kind of thought. Your own (and mine, too) included."

Your point is well-taken. It seems to me, though, that we have a basic disagreement about whether our "thinking" really is "thinking." You think it is, and I think it is not. I think that as "last men", amidst advancing decoded flows and a profusion of private languages, a yes isn't a yes and a no isn't a no, and thought may be impossible until we create- and I mean create- affirmation. Part of the creating, as I see it, is to recognize that we do not now know even how to affirm - we may have an important insight that affirmation is necessary, but what comes after that insight is terra incognito.

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Blogger Orla Schantz said...

Thank you, Yusef, for your response. I think I see your point and it is well taken. But it also brings up a host of new "problems" which is always productive.

When Nietzsche wrote his books in the 1880's he still thought he could use language in an affirmative and "truthful" way (though he had a clear understanding of its almost metaphysical status). The "linguistic turn"and Wittgenstein were half a century away. I think we owe it to him to take him at his word, as it were.

As far as our "thinking" goes more than a century later we might disagree as to its status, yet I also tend to agree with you that we are adrift and in need of not only creating but also of affirming the use of philosophy.

As he said himself Nietzsche was a physiologist in his claim to be a "yes-sayer" to life. As you know he has important advice about diets, exercise, and the value of clean air.

Maybe we should walk in his footsteps when he says that a thought that isn't created when you are briskly walking in the mountains is worth nothing :-)

Yusef, we need to return to this soon.

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Yusef, I don't think we have addressed the (possible) connection between "desiring one's own suppression" and Nietzsche's description of the "ascetic life" in On the Genealogy of Morals.

For an ascetic life is such a self-contradiction. Here a resentment without equal is in control, something with an insatiable instinct and will to power, which wants to become master, not over something in life but over life itself, over its deepest, strongest, most basic conditions. Here an attempt is being made to use one's power to block up the sources of that power. Here one directs one's gaze, with a green malice, against one's inherent physiological health, particularly against its means of expression—beauty and joy—while one experiences and seeks for a feeling of pleasure in mistrust, atrophy, pain, accident, ugliness, voluntary loss, self-denial, self-flagellation, self-sacrifice. All this is paradoxical to the highest degree. Here we stand in front of a dichotomy which essentially wants to be a dichotomy, which enjoys itself in the midst of this suffering and gets even more self-aware and more triumphant in proportion to the decrease in its own pre-requisite, the physiological capacity for life. "Triumph in the ultimate agony"—under this supreme sign the ascetic ideal has always fought. Inside this riddle of seduction, in this picture of delight and torment it sees its highest light, its salvation, its final victory. Crux, nux, lux [cross, nut, light]—for the ascetic ideal these are all one thing.


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