Sunday, January 03, 2010

The Shadows of Totalization, Part L

"This made possible the freethinking attitude of Thomas Jefferson, who said, ‘It does me no harm for my neighbor to say that there are many gods or that there are none.’”--Carlos, The Importance of History.

Hypothetical presuppositions of the above statement:

1.Society can be divided into practical secular and religious spheres.
(There are practices which can be identified as religious or secular.)
2.Religious practices can be confined to the private sphere.
3.Religious practices can be reduced to, “saying that there are many gods or that there are none.”
4.Secular practices as such are compatible to rational practices and rational practices enacted in the political cannot be harmful.
5.Religious practices align with the dogmatic.
6.The religious is confining and what is confining is best dealt with by being confined. Freethinking confines what would otherwise confine freethinking.
7.Conflict between differing secular practices is resolvable because rational conflict is resolvable.
8.(There is no need to speculate or ponder the fate or outcome of religious conflict because the vast weight of historical experience demonstrates these to be interminable and violent.)
9.Religious practitioners can be rationally persuaded. Their confinement can be voluntary (ie not itself a source of conflict.) In other words, religious practitioners accept (rationally? religiously? Is confinement rational-religious?) the priority of the rationally secular.
10.Primary infringements upon secular,public,rational, political practice come from unconfined, public, religious practice.


Blogger Christoffer said...

First monkeyboy stayed home with mummy,then he left home and found a girlfriend .. and take a look at him now, he got an important job position, oh my god he is so succesfull!

Well Done Monkeyboy!

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's secular, rational, and demystified, and you can tell all this by the white shirt and tie he's wearing.


12:11 PM  
Blogger Christoffer said...

So is he a real successtory of Enlightenment?

First there was the Good, the True, and the Beatiful ..

Then there was God, Jesus and the Holy ghost ..

Then Enlightenment came, and there was the Secular, the Rational, and the Civilised ..

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


In other words, secularization is not the kind of process we are deluded into thinking it is.


1:04 PM  
Blogger Christoffer said...

The reason could be that there is a lack of ability to create a concept or a perception of the religious, in some other way than the Tribal way. Islam and Christianity are made of tribes. They are very primitive tribal religions. This is especially true for Islam.

2:37 PM  

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